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DRCOG Regional Transportation Committee May 14, 2024 meeting

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DRCOG Regional Transportation Committee Meeting
May 14, 2024
  SPEAKER: Okay everyone, it is 8:30. Please take 
your seat so we can begin the meeting. It is   8:30 everyone. Please take your seat so we can 
begin the meeting. Chair Shaw we have quorum,   so when you are ready we can begin the meeting.
WYNNE SHAW: Yes, please do that. Welcome to this   morning's Regional Transportation Committee. It 
is May 14th and 8:30 a.m. our meeting is now in   order. Our first item for the agenda is public 
comment. Is there anyone here who is signed up   for public comment or hand raised.
SPEAKER: Thank you madam chair.   I will give it a second. But no, I don't 
see hands raised online or in person.
  WYNNE SHAW: So we will close the public 
comment and begin with the meeting summary,   which is in attachment A.

Were there 
any questions or changes? Seeing none,   the meeting summary will be filed as distributed. 
We have four action items this morning,   so we'll get right to work. The 2050 Metro 
Vision Regional Transportation Plan amendment,   which is attachment B in your packet. I believe 
that's being presented by Alvan-Bidal Sanchez,   regional transportation program manager.
ALVAN-BIDAL SANCHEZ: Thank you, Chairman.   As introduced I am introducing our 2050 Metro 
Vision Regional Transportation Plan. I will go   over highlighted results.

We are going over the 
amended 2050 Metro Vision Regional Transportation   Plan. Denver sow they were sub area eight-hour 
ozone conformity determination and transportation   greenhouse gas results. We kicked this off back in 
September. We made sure we reflected the projects   appropriately in the model and plan. The first 
couple of months of this year was finalizing   our documents and made sure our main plan was 
updated with these documents. So part of that   was updating appendix S, which is RTP and GHG.
>> Our official public hearing — so we are now in   the adoption finalization stage of this work. 
TAC has recommended approval of the plan. We   are before y'all for recommendation. Hope to go 
before the Board tomorrow and hopefully we will   get our materials together for submittal to 
partners and meeting the state accessibility   requirements by July 1st of this year.
>> Five amendments we are processing in this   cycle amendment process are across the region 
for new projects. Four in our time line in our   2024 staging period. We worked with project 
sponsors and regional partners.

There were   seven submitted and we are processing five. One 
we wanted to handle in our four-month update   to have a more holistic view of the corridor.
>> A key piece when we worked on the GHG planning   standard. All of that we planned two years ago 
stayed the same. We made this to be in compliance   with the GHG rule. Measures have been unchanged 
since the original plan was updated back in 2022.   With that, we still do have to show GHG compliance 
even with amended plan. This chart shows how we   got to that plan. This is the new modelling with 
the new project with the plan and programmatic row   and the two rows changed from when we first worked 
on the GHG planning standard. Those calculations,   measures and strategy values have stayed 
the same. For this effort you will take the   GHG row and make sure we exceed those. For 
each four analysis we are subject to, we do   achieve emission reduction that's required.
>> The other piece is our federal air quality   requirement. The MVRTP has to address the 
ozone pollutants. With the GHG work the   RTP passes air quality test.

A table for what 
that looks like compared to the GHG work this   is a ceiling we can achieve. We can exceed any 
of those values in the analysis years. We pass   our air quality conformity requirements.
>> Like I mentioned, there are a number of   different pieces that are part of our plan. 
When we do an update they are routine to make   sure projects are shown appropriately in the 
plan. We do routine and minor updates in the   appendices and the financial plans and GHG 
transportation report. And the transportation   committee has accepted the GHG.

>> We have a one stop shop for people   to come for a virtual workshop to have information 
available to them. Includes discussion board for   people to comment and have other folk react, 
comment as well. Also instructions on how to do   formal complaints, whether coming to us. There 
were no testifiers at that public meeting.
  >> Some things we did to promote the review 
period. An eblast was sent out and we had a   number of post across our various social 
media platforms, announcing to folks we   had this plan.

Those are available to you and 
when and how you can provide comments to us.
  >> Highlights we saw through our engagement. 
We had 13 social media posts and 561 eblast.   We have different materials available for the 
material and this is common for us. Different   metrics we follow across various plans and 
projects. With that we have a proposed motion   to recommend to the board the draft. Thank you.
WYNNE SHAW: Thank you. Are there questions for   Alvan? Great presentation.

We have 
no questions. I look for a motion.   Thank you. (Chuckles).
SPEAKER: I would second.
  WYNNE SHAW: So you move to recommend to the board 
of directors to draft 2050? All right. Thank you   very much as prepared by staff. Is there a second? 
Director Silverstein, thank you. Move as proposed   by staff. Is there further discussion. 
Those in favor aye. Aye. Those opposed,   no. The ayes have it and the motion is passed.
>> Next item Fiscal Year 2024-2027 Transportation   Improvement Program Policy, which 
is attachment C in your packet. Josh   Schwenk senior planner is here to present.

JOSH SCHWENK: Thank you. I have three proposed   amendments for you. The first is to add $8 million 
in federal bridge system funds to the region one   BRO pool going for Culver repairs. The next is 
add a little over $18 million in funds. This   is prior year funding which was incorrectly 
not moved forward from our prior tip to the   current tip. We are adding those funds back 
in. The next is for capital investment grant,   $127 million.

Happy to take questions, otherwise 
there is information in your packet.
  WYNNE SHAW: Thank you. Are there 
questions for Josh about this?
  RON PAPSDORF: Thank you. I don't want people to 
go through without knowing the significance of   the improvement grant award to RTD to the city 
of Denver for the project. This has been a long   time in the works. It is the first of what we 
plan to be several bus rapid transit corridor   in the region. This is a significant issue and a 
really big deal in RTD in Denver to move forward   with the implementation of this project.
WYNNE SHAW: Thank you. Very helpful. Yes,   director Rosen.
SPEAKER: Question about the   scope of the project. It stays fuel efficient 
busses and vans, ADA compliant list. How are   these busses and vans more fuel efficient and 
provide less greenhouse gas emissions than the   current busses that are new for RTD?
JOSH SCHWENK: This is for the RTD capital   improvements project?
SPEAKER: Yes.

  JOSH SCHWENK: This is for the bus funding 
project pool. As they are purchases newer busses,   the new busses are for efficient than the 
older ones. Just by replacing those with   emissions impact and they are looked for 
improved efficiencies of their busses as well.   Did you have a specific fuel type question?
RON PAPSDORF: If there's a scope, like 10-20-30%   fuel efficient from busses ten years ago. I know 
I'm putting you on the spot here. If you don't   have that, we can follow up. Thank you.
JOSH SCHWENK: Yeah I don't know   that I can answer that.
WYNNE SHAW: Director Welch   may have information. Primarily east metro 
and district shops. This language is pretty   general for funding in general. We will use 
it for those specific purposes for 5339.
  WYNNE SHAW: Director Adams, you're 
all right? Good questions. Yes.
  SPEAKER: Not a specific question on the 
amendments, but it would be really nice to   receive in this committee, a full briefing on BRT 
maybe in the future because this funding source,   there's the climate pollution reduction grant 
that mentions BRT.

There's the funding and the   tip itself that has approved funding for the BRT. 
All of this working together, I would like to see   the big picture, the briefing on BRT.
WYNNE SHAW: That makes sense. That's a   great idea and staff will take note.
SPEAKER: I do have a question. Thank you   for making that comment about BRT. I do talk 
to some merchants on that East Coast corridor   a lot of times and there is a lot of concern 
on the BRT. I think we deserve a really good   briefing on exactly what the plans are. There 
are a lot of concerns around construction,   the middle lane that people believe the work we 
will do. A lot of merchants are worried about   the impact on their business while they work 
is ongoing.

I do appreciate the notion of a   briefing on BRT. Thank you.
WYNNE SHAW: Excellent. Other   questions? Yes, director Stewart.
SPEAKER: I'm forced to make a comment.   Don't is your opportunity to learn about BRT. 
We have a federal BRT program going on at CDOT   and it's well underway and the other meeting 
is 5-7 — tomorrow at the — oh I thought it   was Wednesday. I thought today was Wednesday. 
Sorry, tomorrow. Don't go tonight. And it will   be at the Mac recreation center in Westminster. 
And there is a collaboration going on with BRT   with the opportunity for federal boulevard.

SPEAKER: Is that a streaming opportunity   or is that in person only?
SPEAKER: In person meeting — do   we have one — no this is the third one we 
have had. I will turn it over to Jessica.
  SPEAKER: We had a meeting last night at the CDOT 
head quarters and had a lot people attend. We had   the stay time for individuals was about 30-45 
minutes. Very good interest. We had a meeting   at the end of the corridor at Dartmouth. Not as 
many attended but general positivity. We have   our third and final meeting tonight. All the 
boards will be posted online and the comments   will be posted online.

If you can't make the 
meeting, you with welcome to submit comments.
  WYNNE SHAW: Thank you. Excuse me. Other 
questions before we go to the motion slide?   I think we can look for a motion then. Stewart.
SPEAKER: I recommend to the board of directors   the attached for the Fiscal Year 2024-2027 
Transportation Improvement Program Policy.
  WYNNE SHAW: Those in favor, aye. 
Those opposed? The ayes have it.   Josh you can stay right there because 
our next item is Fiscal Year 2024-2024   Unified Planning Work Program. Thank you.
JOSH SCHWENK: Yes. Thank you again Chair. Those   who may not be aware, our unified planning work 
program is the work program for Denver Regional   Council of Governments.

All of our work tasks 
are included within this document. It helps us   to plan out the work we intend to do over a 
two-year period. The primary purpose of this   amendment to a document is that we recently 
closed out our previous consolidated planning   contract associated with our previous unified 
planning program. We have the financial tables   in the back of the documents to roll over from 
remaining funding from that previous grant   contract into the current one. Additionally, we 
released the document out to staff for comment,   any edits that needed to be made. Primarily the 
changes that were made are fairly minor changes   to the text to clarify the scope of work in the 
document. We had two new deliverables added,   these will be TDM and toolkit.

These are added as 
deliverables in the time frame of this document.   Happy to take questions on the proposed 
document, otherwise I have a proposed motion.
  WYNNE SHAW: Any questions or 
observations. Yes, director Stewart.
  SPEAKER: Red line and I just had a question on 
the mobility hub's part under innovative mobile   planning. It used to say about hubs and now it 
says prepare hubs in the Denver region white   paper. Will we see more about that? I remember a 
while back CDOT had done a white paper on mobile   hubs and I don't think that was published. 
Is your coordination with CDOT on this one.

  JOSH SCHWENK: I believe the changes within 
that section are to kind of more generalize   the language. I think we are still looking 
into that. There will be work to come. I   think it was just kind of to make it a little 
more general, increase the range of scope that   we could participate in looking forward. But 
I don't believe we're actually removing any   planned work from what we're intending to do.

WYNNE SHAW: I would be interested in an update on   that when it comes to fruition. We have some that 
have not been identified from north to south and   goes along with BRT. There you go. Thanks.
SPEAKER: Thank you. Josh is right. We want to   give more flexibility to that evaluation. We 
are engaged with CDOT on CDOT's mobility hub   along with the corridor. This is looking 
for opportunities outside of the freeway   corridor outside of the CDOT around where 
mobility hubs may be appropriate. Those may   be tied to where future BRTs are for the rail 
system.

Designated urban systems around the   region where significant regional transit 
services come together. This is more of a   DRCOG effort to explore those opportunities in 
addition the mobility hubs the CDOT is proposing   to serve Mustang throughout the corridor.
STUART: This is like BRT. Mobility hubs mean   something different to everyone. And — how 
it has to provide to — when we talk about   mobility hub to the Denver region that serves 
something different. It would be interesting   to see how we do for clarification on 
the definition, I guess.

Thanks.
  WYNNE SHAW: That may be why we 
make the language more general   so we can kind of insert the appropriate papers. 
Really good observation. Thank you. Any questions?   Seeing none. Would someone like to make a 
recommendation? Director Guzman, thank you.
  SPEAKER: Motion to recommend to the Board 
of Directors adoption of Fiscal Year   2024-2024 Unified Planning Work Program.
WYNNE SHAW: Those in favor say aye. Those   opposed say no. The ayes have it and the motion is 
adopted. Thank you. And our next item is Federal   Transit Administration Section 5310-Fiscal 
Year 2024 Funding Awards. Which is attachment   E in your packet. We have presenting 
for us Travis Noon, program manager,   administration and finance. Thank you Travis.
TRAVIS NOON: Thank you. Thank you for having me   back as well. We will talk about 
this like we did last month.   On the background, DRCOG is the designated 
recipient of the grant.

We release a yearly   call for project. We released this call 
this year in November 2023. Released from   ten organizations requesting for $4.1 million. 
There is approximately $3.1 million available   for July 2024 through June 2025. All of the 
applications are reviewed and scored by a panel   that makes recommendations to you.
>> Diving into why I'm back here. I   originally estimated the funding for five-month 
apportionments. I had originally estimated there   was $3.1 million available for the apportionments. 
When they were released in April, unfortunately,   it is $2.9 million and there is carry over 
and there was set aside faster funding that is   from this call that makes up that $3.1 million. 
Based on projected funding available to carry   over for the DRCOG for fiscal year 2023, we are 
recommending we reduce the DRCOG award down.   Based on what we will be able to carry over, it 
will be minimal impact on the DRCOG budgets.

All   rewards are remaining the same as recommended by 
the review panel. These are the awards here. Like   I said, they are the same as I presented to you 
last month aside from that one line for the DRCOG   project mobility management project brought 
down. If there are no questions or comments,   I have the recommended motion.
WYNNE SHAW:   Thank you. Are there questions for Travis? Thank 
you for hunting for extra money and for adjustment   that DRCOG was able to make to their own funding. 
That is much more of a comfortable outcome for   the providers who may have already committed to 
staff based on preliminary.

I appreciate that.   Other comments? Otherwise, I look for a motion. 
Motion to recommend to the Board of Directors   approval of the Federal Transit Administration 
Section 5310-Fiscal Year 2024 Funding Awards   for the period beginning July 1, 2024, and 
ending June 30, 2025. Thank you Dr. Clark.   Ayes? Opposed say no. The ayes have it. Thank 
you so much Travis, that motion moves forward.
  >> Then we have nondiscrimination program update 
by Alvan-Bidal Sanchez, regional transportation   manager.
ALVAN-BIDAL   SANCHEZ: I will give updates and this comes out 
of the requirements out of the 2050. We do this   to make up for our nondiscrimination plan 
each year. I will go over each plan. There   is one new proposed plan and the scope of work 
we recommend for them and the time line we look   for over the next year.

>> Start with our most expansive   plan the title VI implementation program. 
This helps us make sure our procedures and   resources are inclusive to the region in 
a nondiscriminatory manner. What plans and   programs we adopt in a nondiscriminatory way.
>> This is the demographic profile across our ten   county area. We pair that with our transportation 
investment analysis. What is our funding and how   it lays out across the region and compare to 
the marginalized community to make sure there   is not a disparate impact on communities. Like 
I mentioned, it's our most expansive plan. In   addition to those key pieces, it outlines the 
policies and procedures in place. Board and   committee structure. How do we add to the public 
to ensure there is nondiscriminatory. What are   the different key products of the various 
staff division. From a transportation side,   what are regional planning staff doing and 
ageing staff doing.

What are key products and   are they inclusive in nondiscriminatory way? The 
last piece put in was subrecipient monitoring,   ensuring they are in compliance with title 
VI. Outline the public participation to   ensure they are engaging with us.
>> The next is the limited English   proficiency plan. This is to ensure all residents 
of the DRCOG region can participate. What that   assistance could be and training and resources 
available for staff here at DRCOG. The title   VI plan has assessment of the English efficiency 
plan. What is the distribution, the top language   in the region and broken down by county. That 
is provided in our limited English proficiency   plan. How do we make decisions to make sure it is 
equitable and how our LEP program looks like at   the agency.

The number of people that are limited 
English proficient — what are our resources   available to help in these conversations.
>> Our third existing plan is the Americans   with Disabilities Act access plan. It looks 
at the different requirements we have under   our requirements as an agency and just document 
how we are making accessible in various forms,   physical accessible, website accessibility for 
folks with accessibility, for folks to engage   in our products. One is office 
place. We don't own this space,   we rent and conform to ADA standards. What is 
available through browser stands for those who   interact with our website, ensure they can 
do that. How do people move differently get   there. We outline our planning process, running 
how we are accessibility, inclusive throughout   our different milestone deliverables we achieve 
as an agency. We also ensure our subrecipients   are compliant with the ADA as well.
>> We have a new plan proposed.

This is a   disadvantaged business enterprise program plan. 
Any program we allocate for our about psi, it   would be a 5310 portion of our funding. That is a 
result of us starting to hit our $250,000 contract   threshold. We are required to have DBE. 
Ensure we are in compliance with our partners.   We have a DBE request form that is included. Any 
time those go out we receive that information from   a potential folk looking to respond to those.

We 
already have a portion of this program in place.   This is just formalizing what it looks like in 
this agency as far as goal setting and the like.
  >> The scope of the update we are looking at 
for the title VI plan, we are wanting to move   to marginalized communities. We want to use the 
new ten indicators that came tout of our equity   index work.

We want those indicators and those 
with the agency. Update investment analysis to   use that index and begin to talk about the 
benefits burdens, conversations we begin to   have in the transportation improvement plan 
last year. Looking at updating the data for   the program access plan. We have a translation 
policy and we provide training for that, do   annual staff training. For the ADA access program 
plan, we want to be set up with the new state   accessibility requirements and DRCOG response. 
All of the updates, etc., to ensure we are   providing updated documents here at the DRCOG.
>> We have been updating the schedule to perform   the investment analysis.

We hope to formalize 
our documents this year. We will have a public   hearing for this process and get into the 
recommendation and adoption process as we   do with these planned adoptions. And TAC and 
the board would see it then. Thank you.
  WYNNE SHAW: Thank you. Are there questions 
for Alvan? Yes, director Guzman.
  GUZMAN: Language efficiency 
you have, is there a clear   definition between (audio going in and out) and 
interpretation for meetings and documents. Those   are two different functions of work mentioned.
ALVAN-BIDAL SANCHEZ: Yes, there will be.   We recognize the distinction like 
live and simultaneous training for   meetings. That is a clarification we make.

WYNNE SHAW: Thank you. Director Mulvey.
  MULVEY: Do you focus on particular language sets 
or are you trying to broaden in so that someone   that comes in can obtain what they need?
ALVAN-BIDAL SANCHEZ: Within the data we highlight   the top nonEnglish languages used. In terms of 
resources we typically default to Spanish in a   lot of our work. That's the population most often 
we deal with on our transportation side. From our   area agency on that side of the work we lean 
on them for more of the lived experience they   are encountering and on the level we can get 
through the U.S.

Census Bureau. The general   language is more Spanish centered. But we provide 
I speak cards and around 31 different languages,   other than English spoken in the region. And we 
rely on (indiscernible) on a granular level.
  WYNNE SHAW: Thank you.
MULVEY: Thank you so much for   this overview. I'm anxious to learn about the 
DBE program. I'm looking forward to learning   more about that and the softer DRCOG emphasis and 
the DBE or small businesses out of 5310 funds.
  WYNNE SHAW: I see a note is being made.

Thank 
you. Other questions? Yes, director Rosenthal.
  ROSENTHAL: Approximately how much is 
received by DRCOG every year that is   subject to the DDE program.
ALVAN-BIDAL SANCHEZ: For us I   think it hovers around $250,000 and 
we are reaching that, and that will   be subject to the DBE requirements. 
That's what we are focussing on.
  WYNNE SHAW: I guess I had a question and maybe it 
is worth a clarification. I think DBA now refers   to something that we used to refer to as women 
and minority businesses.

Is that correct?
  ALVAN-BIDAL SANCHEZ: We do rely on the 
state certification definition. It does   historically include minority, small business, 
women business enterprise. For this they have to   be certified through the state certification 
process. So a woman may not be DBE.
  SPEAKER: DBE is race neutral 
and that's the difference.
  WYNNE SHAW: Thank you. That's great. Other 
questions? All right. Good discussion. Thank   you. Wow. We have made a lot of progress. We 
are down to administrative items. Member comment   on other matters. CDOT is first.
>> Mr. Hogan do you have a comment   to make before we move on?
HOGAN: Sure, I can start. We have our workshops   tomorrow and our meeting on Thursday.

We have a 
packed agenda. A lot of decisions. I'm assuming   there will be a lot of public comment as well. 
We have quite a few items. I will say the thing   I'm most excited about, we just got notification 
we got the busing that will be coming tomorrow,   so we will get to see it. Excited to see the 
fuel efficiency and really the impact in our   environment. So then yeah, I guess I will 
leave the rest of the comments for you all.   Thank you.
SPEAKER:   I have no additional comments. I will 
refer to Jessica and Darius and Karen.
  SPEAKER: Region one has lots of things to 
celebrate. The I gap program received the   excellence award. There is a ceremony going on I 
think in Washington to receive. That I believe I70   central also received an award for that project. 
Exciting there. We were just notified we received   the UPWA award. It was for Colorado and that is 
the I70 and the I70 mountain corridor. That was   requirements under Senate bill 260. We submitted 
our project and the gal conducting the research   monitoring the air quality results will be going 
to Maryland to accept that award.

Really excited   about those. We mentioned the federal BRT public 
meetings. We have a lot of public meetings going   on right now. I think we had a stall during 
COVID. The public meeting is tomorrow. The   bridge replacement had a meeting a couple of weeks 
ago. We will have another public meeting for that   in August. The I72 corridor has set a couple of 
public meetings including stakeholder engagement.   We are making momentum on that project. The I70 
project is going as well. We anticipate having the   first public meeting in July/August time frame. 
We had a quiet period and we're getting used to   the dual virtual and in person, but we have had 
great turn out for our intern engagement. We are   excited to have the communities back and able to 
engage with them one on one.

If you would like to   be on the mailing list for any of those projects 
or want more information, let me know and I can   connect you with the team managers.
SPEAKER: I will finish off saying the   commission for this month we are kicking off 
the long term transportation plan and associated   documents. We are doing workshops on the overall 
goals and looking at long range revenue. That   will help kick off what will probably be many 
conversations with not only the commission but   local programs throughout the state including 
DRCOG or any partners throughout the state.   I think there will be finality on the decision 
as well. The only decision that I want to mention   is if the commission agrees, there will be a 
decision on the allocation of MLMF funds so all   of the MPOs and — they will know what money they 
are getting for FY25 to make decisions on those   projects. That's it for me, Chair.
WYNNE SHAW: Done. Wow. Thank   you. Next is RTD. Thank you.
SPEAKER: Thank you Madam Chair. I could conclude   my report by saying the 2024 legislative session 
has ended.

(Chuckles). But I will say some more.
  WYNNE SHAW: (Chuckles).
SPEAKER: I spoke the last couple of times we   were here about that House Bill 1447, the transit 
House Bill went through a number of iterations and   went away. I credit the team effort, our 
staff, our directors here in this room,   other stakeholders, lobbyist were instrumental in 
it going how it should have gone. It will replace   Senate Bill 230. In theory it gives 
money to (indiscernible) it allows   us to build two major transit lines within 
ten years. And last but not least for me,   our northwest rail peak feasible study is due 
to conclude some time soon.

There seems to   be issues getting BFS, Burlington Santa Fe, 
what it cost to use their right of way. We have   (indiscernible) wanting to use the right of way. 
They are kind of sitting in the captain's seat.   We are just moving forward.
WYNNE SHAW: Thank you.
  SPEAKER: One bill is Senate Bill 2022, additional 
funding for transit. My understanding is there   would be about $5 million for the 0 fare for youth 
program going to RTD and we would not be allowed   to apply for funding for the 0 fare for better 
air, which has been such a success in the past   few years. So we're looking to our leadership 
and discussions with the board as to — and   with DRCOG as well and any entities about how 
to continue that program so we do have funding   either internally, externally or both. Thanks.
WYNNE SHAW: Can I ask a clarifying question? So   you've been procolluded from asking for funding 
for that program? Can you explain more why?
  SPEAKER: Perhaps Bryan — Mr. Welch, 
you may have additional understanding.

  SPEAKER: Thank you. What the program did in 
the previous two years is provide additional   funding to offset the RTD fare loss. First year 
was one month and last year was two months. The   legislature decided not to provide funding for 
that program for 0 fare for better air. If the   RTD board decided to pursue that program, 
we would have to without state support.
  WYNNE SHAW: I misheard that. I 
thought that you couldn't apply   for funding. So I'm glad at least that.

SPEAKER: The clarification is there is no   funding available.
WYNNE SHAW: Correct,   from the state. Okay. So I wish you luck finding 
alternative funds. It is a good program.
  SPEAKER: Sorry. One more followup. For this summer   the program is not funding. Are 
we okay for this summer or is it   future summers that doesn't have funding.
SPEAKER: There is no funding for this summer.
  SPEAKER: Marketing program refers to 
this program so it's important to us.
  SPEAKER: So the old program referred to 
(indiscernible) this program — for the   legislator to provide funding. Next year they 
can provide funding for it. Next year — that   was provided for just one year at a time.
WYNNE SHAW: Director Rosenthal.
  ROSENTHAL: Perhaps there is something in 
the Senate bill where they provide funds   for operations.

RTD would have to apply for that 
just as much as any other transit agency statewide   would have to apply for those funds. That doesn't 
mean we would get any at all or how much we would   get to cover. Is that correct, Mr. Welch.
SPEAKER: My apologies for interrupting. I think   it would be good to get clarification because our 
understanding of the senate bill is the — 70%   of the funded is intended for transportation 
formula and that would be the enterprise that   is housed at — the remainder — the over 30 
— 10% would be available for grants.

And 20%   for rail transit improvements. I think mainly 
probably intended for front range passenger   rail support. I believe the 70% is supposed to 
be distributed to transit providers by formula   so RTD wouldn't have to compete and hope to get a 
grant. We will work on clarification for that and   figure out details as that moves forward.
ROSENTHAL: To add to that. The money would   possibly start next year and maybe the 
following depending on when they start   collecting it. Like next July, Septemberish 
time line, 2025, so not for this year.
  WYNNE SHAW: And director Mulvey.
MULVEY: I may be able to provide clarification   for the funding. The Board reviewed 230 in the 
final days and iteration. As it went through,   it got three pots of 2010, they are all 
competitive and not restricted to any   form of transportation except roadways. 
Any kind of transit can apply to them.
  WYNNE SHAW: Thank you.

And now back 
to the RTD report. Director Guzman.
  SPEAKER: I only have one quick thing. We have 
the finance meeting and we will be going over   quite a few things. It's a very heavy meeting. 
It's leading up to the fun stuff for the budget,   which is a conversation we have to have. I will 
say this about all of the nonsense that happened   at the legislature this year. It doesn't matter 
who is sitting in the director's seat, but the   work we're doing, who we are partnering with and 
what we're going done.

There is a fiscality that   has not been addressed by the legislature that 
your directors understand very intimately. And   it looks like, we will fund this but we will make 
a decision every year so we won't know who to tell   whether they can include RTD by the first month 
or August. We have to make difficult decisions   on planning for the future.

Sad thing about being 
an elected official is the work we do, especially   for this group, I learned last year we can make 
plans for the next four years, but we are not   likely to see them come into fruition while we are 
here. We have a lot of catch up work to do from   previous board decisions and continuing work. This 
is an honest to goodness — what is the (word?)   Without name, conversation that needs to be had. 
Because a lot of the strings attached to the   legislation had misplaced anger and frustration 
and limited funds. And what it cost to lead an   administration of this size without funding.

A 
third of our size with three times our budget.   And the same multimodal situation we have. But 
they have a state budget of $5 million and we   are nowhere near that. We have to get real 
and have an honest conversation about it. The   disrespect and the tone of the legislative session 
this year is (indiscernible) it is not just RTD   board but we all got collectively drug through 
the mud this year. My grandmother taught me,   if you never get in the mud, you never learn 
to respect the earth.

Everything we do is to   respect the earth and the land we are on. We 
can have that conversation in a very different   way. There is another bit, but I saw Bryan has 
a note. I haven't looked at that document yet   and I want to be careful about what I say.
>> The only thing I will add before we move to   Michael is the August 29, 2011, I joined the RTD 
staff. August 30th, 2011, if our data there was   a signature put on a full grant agreement for a 
$1 billion capital grants program that we call   the eagle program. Why is that relevant? April 
2016, big fanfare over at the airport and we   opened the correction when Denver airport and 
Denver station. Any metropolitan area has to have   transit from their central district to airport.

>> We fast forward to May 2024, I will say this   correctly, RTD was successful in defending against 
transit appeals in the court of appeals on it's   claim of approximately $11 million in damages 
against RTD. We finally settled that. There is   still one more step potentially Denver partners 
could appeal to the Colorado Supreme Court to   that decision. For the time being, eight 
years later, that has been adjudicated.
  WYNNE SHAW: Thank you. Director Silverstein.
SILVERSTEIN: Thank you. Not as many things going   on as what is happening here. Legislation, we 
have a victory to add at the legislature, but   small.

There was a (indiscernible) signed a week 
ago and that allows local governments to enact   for stringent provisions allowed. There will be 
outreach to local governments to provide resources   and opportunities to suggest, model ordinances 
and things to allow local improvement. Adding   vehicles more so than they could three weeks ago. 
Summertime. Ozone season will begin. We have had   a few high ozone days, naturally occurring ozone 
intrusions. That means the ozone that protects us   from the rays. It gets down at ground level 
to high altitudes. Ozone is the same thing,   we didn't make it. That shouldn't count against us 
in our quest to reach air quality standards.

Our   summer campaign will be begin here in a few short 
weeks. We hope that we can partner with all of   you to get our messages out and get your messages 
out to make positive improvement to air quality.
  >> Finally, not anything from the DRCOG's 
doing. But the new gasoline that should be be   in our pumps today. Because we have been a chronic 
(indiscernible) we have been downgraded to severe   by the EPA. You have to have clean gasoline 
blends during the summer months. This will be   the first season of reformulated gasoline. The 
cost is widely all over the place. Historically   you might see a $0.30 a gallon increase. This is 
across the nation. We just received a report it   might be $0.60 a gallon. That's the kind of sky 
is falling scenario but you never know. Prices   haven't gone up yet so we have our RTFG tanks. 
That's the way it goes because the administration   issued a study that said $0.60 a gallon. I have a 
hunch it will be $0.60 a gallon because now there   is incentive to charge what is already in the 
news.

Guess what, it came true. I hope that's   not negativity on my part. You never know what 
the gas prices will be and why. It is a cleaner   blended and will give us better air quality. It 
is one more step to allow us to achieve better   air quality. That's an editorial mark here for the 
group. Any questions, I will be happy to take.

  WYNNE SHAW: Thank you. If you will indulge the 
Chair for a moment. This is my last meeting with   all of you. I was not elected mayor and I'm term 
limited on city council. I just wanted to say   to the DRCOG for the wonderful presentations 
that often don't even generate questions,   because they're so darn clear. And for the 
good discussions that we have had during the   member updates. I think I get almost as much 
information in these member updates as I get   from the presentations. So it's been my honor to 
serve you as Chair. If you would like to join me   after the meeting for a quick photo, I'll bet 
Cam will take a photo for us. Please note there   is no RTC meeting in June. The next is July 16th. 
And it is 9:34 and we are adjourned. Thank you.
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